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Hi, Bill! Great to hear from you! And thanks for the comment.

I would agree there is much good in both Greco-Roman culture and the influence of Christianity on Western Civilization, and we could spend a good amount of time describing these beneficial influences. Unfortunately, with the good often also comes the bad, and we could also describe a lot of ways these same influences have been detrimental. Such is the nature of humanity, and human culture. And it's really important for us to see both.

I see much the same need in discussions about our own more recent heritage in the U.S. Many see mostly bad, others see mostly good. But we need to wisely see both, so we can better understand both the good and the bad. Do the government and public institutions enact harmful, destructive policies? Undoubtedly! And it's right and proper for Christian citizens to (respectfully) discuss concerns about these kinds of things, and to work appropriately to address them. Of course, governments and public institutions have always (to varying degrees) enacted harmful, destructive policies, even going back to the Jewish Sanhedrin and the Roman government the Christians were specifically told to respect and obey. We need to discern the current dangers, and seek improvements, without falling into seeing our current dangers as somehow unique.

We definitely don't want to silence dialogue, and I very much appreciate that concern. But part of good dialogue—especially as Christians—is for "iron to sharpen iron," for us to "sharpen" each other in bringing our language and concepts into better, more biblical, focus, and to help each other not fall into an unintentional corruption of the gospel of Christ or mission of the church, which can easily lead us into idolatry (and which has often done so in the past). We don't want to silence dialogue, but we do want to hold all dialogue to a rigorous accountability scripturally. We should all be seeking for this kind of "sharpening" from each other, and for all of our dialogue to come into greater biblical focus, and so be more productive and of more benefit. In the case of Christian Nationalism, we can discern—and jettison—unbiblical, non-gospel, historically baseless ways of addressing concerns without jettisoning the *concerns* themselves. This should help lead us to a more biblical, more gospel harmonious way of addressing concerns faithfully as followers of Christ. Thanks, Bill!

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Bill Miner's avatar

Your treatise is well written and clear. I'd suggest that you have 'responded' to the 'challenge' of some who are very clever at silencing their opposition. If you look at the issue(s) a little differently, the discussion might take a more constructive tone. I'm not a historian, but the development of 'Western Civilization' was heavily influenced by both Greco Roman and Christian values. And, looking around, I haven't seen many examples of other value systems producing similarly 'successful' cultures and governments. As I watch our government and other 'public institutions' endorse actions that are directly opposed and threatening to values that have created the unique cultural and economic environment we all enjoy, I am saddened to see observations and concerns categorized and marginalized as 'Christian Nationalism' seemingly clearly designed to silence any dialogue. Thanks again Curt. Looking forward to more....

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