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Curt Parton's avatar

Hi, Clive. Thanks for your thoughtful comment. Let me offer some thoughts in response. (Hopefully, I'm not misunderstanding your comment!) I think there are dangers on either side of this question of leadership. We can overemphasize the idea of leadership and end up wrongly exalting and empowering one leader or even a group of leaders, which can lead to authoritarianism in the church. On the other side, we can claim that church elders are not to actually provide real leadership in the churches at all.

I think there real problems with this second option biblically, though. Peter expressed the need for a right approach to this when he warned the church elders not to "lord it over" those entrusted to them (1 Peter 5:3). This would seem to be a nonsensical warning if the elders weren't to exercise leadership in the church at all. As you pointed out, the Holy Spirit distributes gifts among the body to be used in ministering to the body. And, according to Romans 12:8, one of these gifts to be used for the good of the church is leadership. It would be odd to assume this gift wouldn't be exercised by those to whom Christ entrusts the church. In Hebrews 13:17, the people in the church are instructed to obey their leaders. This doesn't explicitly connect this to the elders, this is true, but it's hard to imagine this not referring to the church's elders. (I'm not sure who else it would be speaking of.)

Anyone who's sat through a meeting without someone leading, or leading poorly (not getting the meeting started, not wrapping it up, not keeping it moving, etc) can understand how leading can be done as a way of *serving* the group. I think it's easy to see how this can be lovingly using a gift from the Spirit intended to benefit the body. This gift can be abused, of course, just as any other spiritual gift can be abused. But I don't see in Scripture where Christ intends his church to function without human leadership. Quite the contrary, the *Shepherd* of the church even calls the elders to be *shepherds* of the local churches, calling them to share—to some extent—in his ministry to the church. I fail to see how one can shepherd without leading. That seems to be an integral part of shepherding. There's a lot more to it—yes! But I don't think you can extract the concept of leadership from shepherding.

Jesus showed the kind of leadership to which he calls us, that it's to be done with humility and a desire to serve. He modeled this humble service beautifully—but that doesn't mean he didn't lead. It's easy to just be dictators to the church. It's also easy to simply abdicate any real leadership role in the church. It's much harder to lead lovingly, humbly, with a desire to truly serve the church through our leadership. But this is the leadership to which I see Jesus in Scripture calling the elders of his church.

Thanks again for your comment!

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Clive MacDonald's avatar

It seems to me that you've successfully and correctly disposed of the concept not only of the 'senior pastor' but any single pastor figure Curt. Human nature is to seek to identify and follow a 'leader' figure, but this is not Scriptural. The leader of the church is Christ by His Holy Spirit, being worked out by the gifts and ministries distributed amongst the body, as per Corinthians. Without a human 'leader' figure, this tends to get messy, hence the need for mature and responsible elders who 'oversee' this activity. I don't believe it's appropriate to associate the concept of leadership with these elders. As you point out, apart from Ephesians 4, poimen is used either to indicate the sort of gentle shepherding activity carried out by elders, or else to describe actual shepherds e.g. in parables. I don't believe that its single appearance as 'pastor' in Ephesians 4 is sufficient to justify the typical 'pastor' role as it exists and functions in today's church.

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